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Volume 2, Number 3 -- May, 1995
Newsletter of the Livermore Unit of the
National Association of Rocketry
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Note changes!
New MEETING PLACE, Launch Date!
Our next club meeting, on May 18, will be held
in the Community Meeting Room, off of the main
lobby of the new Livermore Police Station, 1110 South
Livermore Avenue. (See the information flyer included with
this newsletter for instructions on how to get there.) The
folks at Hobby Haven have been super, keeping the store
open for us on Tuesday nights, but, we've have just grown
too big for the space that they have generously provided.
However, our access to the Community Meeting Room may
be restricted, requiring the presence of Mark Weiss, and we
cannot hold "build" meetings there. So, we should all be
thinking about a better meeting site. Our current meeting
schedule posted on the last page of this newsletter indicates
that you should call our Lunar message center for the
location of future meetings.
Our May launch date has changed to May 27,
which differs from that previously posted in the newsletter.
The July had also moved, but was then moved back to July
22, so there is no net change from that printed in the last
newsletter.
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Spoils of Success
by Jack Hagerty, LUNAR Vice President
LUNAR has made great strides in its short history. It's been
barely 2 1/2 years since our first organizational launch in
October '92 and we're already issuing membership numbers
in the 300's. Of course we don't really have that many
members since some move out of the area, don't renew, etc.,
etc. Right now we're sending out newsletters to about 80
families which means approximately 150 active members.
Still, this puts us in the upper 10% in size of all NAR
sections. Our launches are routinely attended by nearly 100
fliers making over 200 flights plus dozens of spectators
when we host various civic groups.
We are also getting some notoriety in the rocketry
community around the state. Thanks to the tireless efforts
of some of our senior members, you can now fly the lower
end of High Power Rocketry (up to "H" class motors) from
our field; the only place in Northern California where it is
legal to do this. In fact, one NAR member, recently
transplanted from Michigan who flew with us for the first
time at our Regional contest in April, has recommended
that we hold a future NARAM at our site!
Woah, a NARAM? What's that? It sounds important!
Well, it is. NARAM is the National Association of
Rocketry's Annual Meet; a full week of contests,
presentations, tours and manufacturers' forums with fliers
from all over North America. It has been a goal of our
president from the beginning to host a NARAM and you
don't really have to be a large club to do it (for example, this
year's NARAM is being hosted by MARS, a New York club
with only 40 members). What you do need, though, is lots
of volunteers.
Volunteers. There it is, the ugly "V" word. Last summer
we put out a plea for help saying that nearly all of the work
was being done by five dedicated members who were on the
verge of burnout. We did get some response to that and
now we have twice as much work being done by seven
dedicated members! Seven people is a mighty small base to
be supporting a club this size. We desperately need more
help!
On May 4th, four of the senior members (Ron Basket, Jack
Hagerty, Lynn Kissel and Warren Massey) had an informal
meeting to discuss the situation. No decisions were made
since it wasn't a formal board meeting and only two of the
attendees were board members, but among the possible
solutions presented were:
- Increased incentive - We already allow "payment" of
four flight cards for each volunteer service performed
(RSO, LCO, Sign-in table, Equipment Set-up and Take-
down), but since these only cost 25 cents normally, most
people would rather "pay to play." The suggestion was
to raise the cost to $1 per flight card to make earning
them other ways more attractive. This, of course, runs
counter to our "lowest possible cost" philosophy to give
the incentive to fly legally with the club rather than
sneaking around in school yards and vacant lots.
- Iron Fist - This would make volunteering mandatory,
something of an oxymoron. In this scenario you simply
would not be allowed to fly unless you had performed at
least one volunteer service. Alternatively, we wouldn't
allow anyone to renew their membership unless they'd
volunteered at least once for each launch attended. Then
again, the idea is to get people to join, not drive them
away by making renewal harder! Additionally, we don't
really have enough volunteer jobs for the size of the
crowds we've been getting lately.
- Public Humiliation - In this one the launches would
continue as they do now, but about halfway through
someone would read off the sign-up list the names of
those who had not yet volunteered for a duty.
Distasteful, but probably effective.
- Faith - Hope that when you read this, you'll be
sufficiently motivated to help out that we won't have to
resort to any of the above!
Actually, we should go over a bit just what's involved in
these duties. It's really not much and as the old saw says
"many hands make light work." Many people are reluctant
to volunteer because they feel they don't know enough and
might make a mistake. Hey! This isn't rocket science!
Here's all you have to do:
Set-up and Take-down are pretty much self explanatory and
take about 45 minutes each. The other three duties, RSO,
LCO and Sign-In, have shifts of one hour each.
RSO is the Range Safety Officer who has responsibility for
safety of the entire range and the primary duty is to do a
safety check of each model before assigning it to a pad. This
is the only position that requires any experience and we
probably wouldn't let a raw beginner take this one. The
RSO also has the authority to stop a launch if unsafe
conditions arise (such as high winds or rain).
LCO is the Launch Control Officer whose primary
responsibility is to make sure the sky is clear of aircraft and
that the correct pad has been selected before the eager little
fingers push the button. You must also announce the flight
and do the countdown for anyone who might be "mike shy."
Sign-In registers folks when they first arrive and either
verifies their membership or signs them up for a one day
pass. Also, since this is the position with the cash box, this
is where we sell the flight cards and take orders for T-shirts
and hats.
So, come on out and give us a hand. Just think how
impressive you'll be as the OFFICIAL Launch Control
Officer! Don't buy that? Well, how about, if too many of us
burn out and go away, then the club may go away...
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US rocket launched in Russia
International Cooperation Leads to a Successful Flight
by Lynn Kissel, LUNAR #009
Since the end of the Cold War, US and Russian scientists
have experienced increased cooperation and
communication. Following my earlier visit with him in St.
Petersburg, Russia, Dr. Andrey Solov'yov, a physicist at the
A.F. Ioffe Physical-Technical Institute in St. Petersburg,
Russia, visited Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
last August as my guest.
Near the end of his visit, we went shopping for some gifts
for his family. We explored a local toy store for a gift for
his son, Ilia. Nothing we looked at really seemed
appropriate, that is, until I suggested model rockets!
Andrey was quite surprised as he had not known that model
rockets readily existed as a hobby item here, and we spent
an enthusiastic hour considering what collection of kits and
supplies would be needed. The conversation was
augmented with some animated discussion of the larger
field of high-powered rocketry, the activities of LUNAR and
AERO-PAC, and payloads with electronics and cameras.
Eventually we settled back down on an Estes America
starter kit. Later, after taking Andrey to the airport, I
briefly wondered about his rocket purchase and hoped that
it would be appreciated by Ilia (and not cause trouble with
customs). But soon, the everyday pressures and duties at
work drove this subject from my mind.
Several weeks later I received an e-mail message from
Andrey that told me of his experience with the rocket:
"The gifts you helped me to choose for my family pleased
us very much. And of course I told about the person, who
gave me the good advice. Last Sunday we launched the
rocket. That was great. We invited some other children,
went to the country. We found a large and bald hill and
launched the rocket from its top. We made two successful
starts using the weakest engines (A8-3). We shot at some
angle against the wind, so that the rocket returned close to
the starting point. On the third time we decided to increase
the altitude of the rocket's trajectory. We put the more
powerful engine (C6-5) and decreased the angle against the
wind, so we launched the rocket almost perpendicular to the
surface. That was really great - the beautiful start, the nice
flight, the enormous altitude. Unfortunately the wind was
strong enough, so our rocket flew, flew and flew on the
parachute and finally reached the nearby forest. We tried to
find it there, but failed. Nevertheless we had real fun and
all of us enjoyed launching the rocket very much. I believe
that was not our last rocket."
In February I received an e-mail message indicating that
Ilia has become a real rocketeer. At first he made his own
rockets. Then, on a recent trip to London they discovered
rockets in some of the toy stores. A camera rocket has been
purchased. I'm hoping soon to get an aerial photo of the
Russian countryside from about 200 meters!
The Solov'yov Family and friends preparing for their first launch
at a site outside St. Petersburg, Russia, Aug. 21, 1994. Andrey's
son Ilia is the one kneeling to the right of the rocket; Andrey's
wife Irina is standing on the left in the back. In the original photo,
the USA decal of the Estes America can be clearly seen on
the side of the body tube. (Photo by Andrey Solov'yov, image processing
by Lynn Kissel).
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LUNAR Regional Contest: Impressions
by William F. Walby, NAR #60661, LUNAR #200
The following are the impressions of a rookie NAR
competitor at the LUNAR regional Contest held on the 23rd
of April 1995 in Livermore, California.
Let me start by saying that the weather in the weeks leading
up to the contest was not conducive to a true testing
program. The weather was either rainy or very windy or
both. This makes it difficult when you are trying to build
most of the contest models from plans or scratch and all you
can do is calculate CP's and CG's and test glide in your
living room!
The contest had 4 events scheduled: 1/2A PD (parachute
duration), B B/G (boost glider duration), C Alt (altitude),
and D ELA (egg lofting altitude). I figured on flying the B
B/G and C Alt initially and started building about 6 weeks
prior to the contest. For the C Alt, I had no real idea of
what type of rocket would work best so I decided that
minimum diameter, fairly short (to keep the weight down)
with well airfoiled fins and a lugless construction were what
I could do best. Using suggestions from Stine's book and
help from "r.m.r. folks" I put together a nice little model.
The B B/G was built from NARTS plans (the Charles) and I
managed to get in one test flight each a month ahead of
time. I also built a nice CHAD Tower Launcher from
suggestions from another r.m.r. reader which worked
perfectly. I used an A8-3 for the test flight. The B B/G was
not impressive, but I figured with a little more trimming it
would work OK.
As the contest date got closer, I decided that I needed a
backup B/G so I built a Swift, again from NARTS plans.
Then I decided that I should go ahead and enter all the
events. Just in time the latest issue of Sport Rocketry
arrived with plans for egg lofters!! This was right at Easter
so plastic eggs were plentiful. Unfortunately, the current
batch of plastic eggs are just slightly smaller than the
suggested size of 1.75" or are much bigger at 2.75". I
decided to make one of the smaller eggs work. I built a
spacer ring and sanded the inside of the egg as much as I
could and a 42mm hens egg would fit! I would have to pick
my egg using a pair of calipers!
For the 1/2A PD I used the upper stage of an Estes mini
Cobra and made a 'chute as big as would fit from a dry
cleaning bag. All my entries were finished and I still had
over two weeks before the contest. All I had to do was wait
for a day with no rain and light winds to test my rockets.
Mother Nature has had it in for us lately and this pattern
was not to change for the next couple of weeks. During this
waiting period I decided I needed a backup for my C Alt
rocket so I built a 2 stage design (from NARTS plans) and
continued to wait for the weather to improve.
One week to go and the weather was still bad. I did not like
the thought of having the majority of my entries flown for
the first time in actual competition. But I had no other
choice. The weather was still rainy and windy the Friday
before the contest. Saturday was clear but still a little
windy. I live 90 miles north of the LUNAR site so the
weather can be quite different from my home to the site.
Sunday dawned bright and clear AND NO WIND. It
looked like it was going to be a great day. I was very
excited. The weather at the launch site was as good as
anyone could hope for: low 60's to start warming to upper
70's by the afternoon; light breezes all day.
1/2A PD was the first event flown. Lots of different
designs; minimum diameter for altitude but not very large
chutes to large diameter/lightweight designs with BIG
chutes; Mylar chutes, dry cleaning bag 'chutes, stock Estes
chutes. Every thing was tried. My own entry flew just fine
but lost a lot of altitude before the 'chute finally deployed.
Jack Haggerty won with a time of 3:31 using a fairly large
diameter model with a large Mylar chute.
B B/G was next. The weather was perfect but the
temperature had not warmed sufficiently for good thermals
to develop. Again a number of different designs were
utilized. Apogee Maximas, Quest Flat Cats, scratch builts
etc. Jonathan Dunbar entered a scratch built with built-up
wings and tail surfaces covered with tissue. The winning
flight was young Travis Massey with a time of 2:17. My
first flight of the Swift had a little too much wing tip weight
and tightened up in the turns as it descended for a 32
second flight. I took some of the wing tip weight off but the
thing never really flew after separation -- too much nose
weight? Only stayed up for 11 seconds. The morning
rounds were completed and we held sport flights for the
next 2 hours. Just time enough to go buy eggs and set up
the tracking stations for the altitude flights.
The wind picked up just a little bit during the afternoon
rounds, but still very tolerable. C Alt was the most diverse
event -- tower launchers, piston launchers, lugged/lugless,
blackshaft/paper tubes, balsa/G-10 fins; you name it and it
was tried. Some of us used composites, others used BP
motors. A number of very good flights were put up and
most of the tracks closed. My little scratch built recorded
the best altitude of 790.5m on an Apogee C4-7, followed
closely by Chet Geyer at 729.5m using the same motor.
D ELA was the final event to be flown. Due to the lateness
of the day, everyone would have only one flight to qualify. I
must admit that this is one of the more exciting events of
the day. As with the other events, there were many
strategies employed. The main problem was getting 'chutes
to deploy. Kicked motors, separated shock cords, tangled
'chutes, stripped 'chutes, etc. Custom built's, Apogee kits,
and Estes kits were all used with varying degrees of success.
Many a SPLAT was heard. Only two safe recoveries were
made. Travis Massey won with Lynn Kissel taking runner-
up honors. We lost many an "Astronaut" this day. But
much fun was had by all.
These events are really a challenge and are not as simple as
they look. This was my first NAR competition but by no
means my last. Many thanks to the LUNAR members who
worked so hard to put on an excellent event. Special thanks
to Contest Director- Kurt Peters, and Warren Massey for the
tracking hardware.
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LUNAR Spring Competition
April 23, 1995
SUMMARY RESULTS
Event First Second Third Fourth
1/2'A' PD Jack Hagerty Jon Dunbar Tim Maier Bruce Shay
'B' Boost Glider Travis Massey Chet Geyer Royce Longacre Bruce Shay
'C' Altitude William Walby Chet Geyer Jon Dunbar Lynn Kissel
'D' Eggloft Travis Massey Lynn Kissel (rest were scrambled)
Notes:
Egg Loft results indicate those competitors who recovered eggs unbroken!
All other results do not take into account whether the rocket was
returned or not.
NAR competition points may be different, based on the qualifications of
each event.
1/2 'A' Parachute Duration
Competitor First Attempt Second Attempt Total Time
timer 1 timer 2 average timer 1 timer 2 average
Jonathan Dunbar DQ 0:03:21 0:03:20 0:03:20 0:03:20
Jack Hagerty 0:03:31 NT 0:03:31 No 2nd Attempt 0:03:31
Eric Kleinschmidt DQ No 2nd Attempt
Royce Longacre 0:00:20 0:00:20 0:00:20 0:00:35 0:00:36 0:00:36 0:00:56
Travis Massey 0:00:40 0:00:40 0:00:40 No 2nd Attempt 0:00:40
Bruce Shay 0:00:43 0:00:42 0:00:42 0:00:59 0:00:59 0:00:59 0:01:41
Tim Maier DQ 0:01:59 0:02:00 0:01:59 0:01:59
'B' Boost Glider Duration
Competitor First Attempt Second Attempt Total Time
timer 1 timer 2 average timer 1 timer 2 average
Larry Basket 0:01:01 0:01:01 0:01:01 0:00:12 0:00:12 0:00:12 0:01:13
Jonathan Dunbar DQ 0:00:52 0:00:52 0:00:52 0:00:52
Chet Geyer 0:01:54 0:01:53 0:01:53 0:00:31 0:00:31 0:00:31 0:02:25
Eric Kleinschmidt 0:00:12 0:00:11 0:00:11 0:00:10 0:00:10 0:00:10 0:00:21
Royce Longacre 0:02:12 0:02:12 0:02:12 No 2nd Attempt 0:02:12
Travis Massey 0:00:12 0:00:12 0:00:12 0:02:17 0:02:17 0:02:17 0:02:29
William Sawyers DQ 0:01:23 0:01:24 0:01:23 0:01:23
Bruce Shay 0:02:01 NT 0:02:01 No 2nd Attempt 0:02:01
William Walby 0:00:32 0:00:32 0:00:32 0:00:11 0:00:10 0:00:10 0:00:42
Daniel Cole 0:00:12
'C' Altitude (1200-foot baseline)
Competitor Track 1 Track2 Geodesic Method Vertical-MidPoint Method
EL AZ EL AZ Closure Altitude Closure Altitude
(deg) (deg) (deg) (deg) (%) (feet) (m) (%) (feet) (m)
Larry Basket 43.3 69.4 44.3 75.5 0.1 1905.0 580.7 0.1 1905.1 580.7
Jonathan Dunbar 57.6 73.2 52.9 55.1 1.1 1949.4 594.2 1.0 1955.8 596.1
Chet Geyer 69.1 56.8 66.4 47.9 0.4 2390.5 728.6 0.7 2393.3 729.5
Jack Hagerty No Track 47.8 56.6
Lynn Kissel 61.8 59.2 60.0 52.5 0.2 1916.7 584.2 0.3 1916.2 584.1
Eric Kleinschmidt 59.5 55.2 59.1 51.8 1.2 1698.3 517.6 1.4 1697.9 517.5
Royce Longacre 62.6 83.1 49.2 38.6 2.1 1634.3 498.1 2.3 1659.8 505.9
Travis Massey 56.6 65.5 54.9 56.5 1.2 1812.8 552.6 1.2 1810.8 551.9
Bruce Shay 54.2 57.1 55.2 65.8 2.4 1769.3 539.3 2.3 1767.0 538.6
William Walby 59.7 51.6 64.5 78.0 0.8 2593.3 790.4 0.9 2582.9 787.3
'D' Altitude Egg Loft (1200-foot baseline)
Competitor Track 1 Track2 Geodesic Method Vertical-MidPoint Method
EL AZ EL AZ Closure Altitude Closure Altitude
(deg) (deg) (deg) (deg) (%) (feet) (m) (%) (feet) (m)
Larry Basket Not Entered
Jonathan Dunbar Not Entered
Chet Geyer * 53.6 58.7 53.8 59.0 0.2 1579.0 481.3 0.2 1579.0 481.3
Jack Hagerty * 55.0 62.6 54.0 57.7 0.6 1688.6 514.7 0.6 1688.1 514.5
Lynn Kissel 32.4 59.6 31.9 58.6 0.7 734.2 223.8 0.4 734.3 223.8
Eric Kleinschmidt*36.0 62.4 35.8 63.4 1.3 953.3 290.6 0.8 953.4 290.6
Travis Massey 43.9 55.7 43.3 55.6 1.3 1012.5 308.6 1.0 1012.7 308.7
Bruce Shay * 53.8 58.5 50.0 50.7 2.1 1313.7 400.4 2.0 1317.3 401.5
William Walby * 70.4 52.6 64.6 37.9 0.8 2030.8 619.0 1.5 2039.0 621.5
* = Egg not returned (intact)
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LUNAR Dust
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Firefox order
At the next club meeting (May 18th) and
launch (May 27th), Warren Massey would like to meet with
any individuals interested in getting together a group
Firefox order. (Firefox is the chemical supply house for
things like igniter/thermalite/motor makings.)
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Lost & Found
A turquois men's jacket was left at the
April launch. Contact Warren Massey to claim it.
The club still has three rockets left over from the March
launch which were apparently given up for lost by their
owners. They were turned in by conscientious club
members while out looking for their own lost rockets.
The first two are understandable as to why they were lost,
but the last is surprising. First is an Estes Mosquito with a
black body and gold nose cone and fins. The body also has
an, uh, creative gold pattern on it. Mosquitos often get lost
just by their sheer speed and tiny size.
The second rocket is an Estes Turbo Copter with the nose
cone missing. Of course, that's the part that helicopters
back, so we can see why someone might lose sight of the
body while watching the neat part come down. This one
has some nifty sparkly rocket decals on it near the top of the
body.
Finally, the surprise, is an Aerotech Tomahawk. The
surprise comes from the fact that this is a big (45")
expensive ($40) kit, and the owner still managed to lose it!
It has the Aerotech S/N sticker on it (SN-8901401455) but
that doesn't do us much good. All three of these are being
held by V.P. Jack Hagerty who has a few words on how to
prevent this from happening in the future:
"On all my rockets I have a return address sticker. I bought
them from one of those mail order places where you can get
200 stickers for $4.95. You can put any message you want
on those things, not just your name and address, and you
can get quite a few characters on a line. On mine, I have
'IF FOUND PLEASE RETURN TO:' on the first line in all
caps, then my name and phone number on the second line,
then my street address on the last two. You can get these on
all sorts of backings from regular paper (in white or a
rainbow of assorted colors) to metal foils and colored
plastics. For myself I got black letters on clear plastic film
since you can place it over almost any color paint job
(except very dark ones) and it still shows through. This has
the added benefit on scale models of looking like some sort
of 'official' markings which, come to think of it, it is!"
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Letters to the Editor
Thanks for the encouragement...
Dear Editor -
I attended my first LUNAR launch on Sunday, and I
thought it was great! I brought my nephew and his dad,
and when we arrived, I took one look at your great flying
field and all your well organized activity and joined
LUNAR on the spot!
I especially liked the way that you accommodated the entire
range of participants and made everyone feel welcome -- all
the way from a little girl launching her first A-engine rocket
to the big "kids" with their G and H motors. It looks like
LUNAR really provides an opportunity for newcomers like
me to see the full range of the hobby and a clear path for
moving up as we learn.
Keep up the great work, and I'll see you at next month's
launch!
s/Dave Redell
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Lynn's Theodolite Box
The preliminary drawing and one of Lynn Kissel's finished boxes for
LUNAR's theodolites, used in optical determination of maximum rocket
altitude. Three theodolites were custom built for the club by
Warren Massey, LUNAR #007
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Lynn's Rocket Box
The preliminary drawing and finished box for Scorpius, Lynn
Kissel's prototype ATV (amateur television) rocket.
Copyright © 1995 by LUNAR, All rights reserved.
Please send your comments to Lynn Kissel,
lkissel@starship.org.
Information date: Feb. 23, 1997 lk
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